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  The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!

  by The Searcher in

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  watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.

  17 - confess and abandon secret sins.

  some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.

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  What's your real problem Mr. Spilver? Let's discuss it on a separate post, and let the folks here consider it.
  
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  Do we attack the Topic or the Person?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i was just thinking that most witnesses can not approach a controversial topic without turning it into an attack of the person who raises that topic.. as we all awaken to ttatt (the truth about the truth), they simply can't discuss the actual facts or issues we discover without turning it into an attack of us as "apostates" with all the negative connotations that word entails.... how truly narrow minded and sad!

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  they would rather attack the person than the topic..

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  Spot on Stuck!
  
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  The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.

  17 - confess and abandon secret sins.

  some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.

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  Watchtower October 2017, page 11, par. 17 - Confess and abandon secret sins. Some Christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others. (Prov. 28:13) Yet, such a course is unloving, for it harms not only the sinner but also others. It can hinder the flow of God’s spirit and threaten the peace of the entire congregation. (Eph. 4:30) Genuine love moves Christians who have committed serious sins to speak [confess] to the elders......

  So Catholics have been right all along??????????? But the alleged "faithful slave" said this less than 7 years ago -
  

  w10 9/1 p. 23 - "God does not authorize men [elders] to forgive sins...only he can do so... to whom should such [serious] sins be confessed? Since forgiveness can come only from God, confession must be made to him."

  How quickly "Bible truth" changes!!!!!
  
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  Britain Branch to Cease Printing Sooner Than Expected

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source: .

  the demise of printing literature in the u.k. is being brought forward by one year - to march 2018. graphic design and printing support will go too.

  large numbers of "disposable" bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them.

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  Perhaps many of the U.K. "special full-time servants" will use the remaining 9 months of their "vow of poverty" to reappraise the one-sided loyalty expected within the org - and consider how to adequately provide for themselves now, and into their old age. (which millions were assured would never come!)
  
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  Britain Branch to Cease Printing Sooner Than Expected

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source: .

  the demise of printing literature in the u.k. is being brought forward by one year - to march 2018. graphic design and printing support will go too.

  large numbers of "disposable" bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them.

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  The Searcher

  I've received the following news from a reliable and trusted source:

  The demise of printing literature in the U.K. is being brought forward by one year - to March 2018. Graphic design and printing support will go too.

  Large numbers of "disposable" Bethelites will now have to make their own way in the world, when their "mother" abandons them. Most of the victims will be reassigned to the field in some capacity. We await more details in the coming months.
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  My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

  i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

  i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

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  I'm so sorry to be late to the party Pale Emperor, (been out all day) but this is genuinely one of the best feel-good posts I've read here! What a result for you and your brother!

  Please let him know that there are people whom he's never met who are full of admiration for him.

  I wish you both all the very best in your brotherly relationship.
  
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  Surprise Elders Visit

  by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes in

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  2. beliefs

  hello community!

  quick background - baptized 1971, 46 years in the borg, former elder.

  wife - baptized 1973, pioneer...... we became disgusted with the oranization 10 years ago but still believed it was the truth.

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  Welcome to the forum TightPants, wonderful story.

  Why did you sugar-coat your replies to Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum? :)
  
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  DA myself to relieve great pressure?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. friends

  my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

  sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

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  Isambard, you have a P.M.
  
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

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  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  DREARYWEATHER, I stand corrected. It appears that some reversals are older than 2013, while the rest were only revealed in July 2013:

  5. The faithful & discreet Slave was appointed at Pentecost 33 C.E. (page 20, par 3) (changed to 1919)

  6. The 'domestics' are only the anointed. (page 23, par 13) (up until 2013, only the 'anointed' were domestics)

  7. There is an 'evil slave class'. (box on Page 24) ("evil slave class" became "hypothetical" in 2013)

  8. Jesus appointed the FDS over all his belongings in 1919. (page 24, par 15,16) (changed until after the G.T.)

  DARKSPILVER said, "Of course, 'The Searcher' is clever - see how Point 7 was slipped in.."

  Since you are clearly in the dark about Point 7, I'll explain it simply: Up until 2013, the org has always taught J.W.'s that there was an "evil slave class." That "truth" was abandoned & reversed in 2013 - thanks to Christendom's statement that Jesus was speaking hypothetically. Clear?

  Why are you trying to assert that a blatant corruption & reversal by the org (in 2013) is somehow a fallacy on my part? Very curious!

  Please, in case nobody has realized..... DARKSPILVER appears to be quite bitter about something. Is he in reality an active Bethelite assigned to troll sites such as this? No more feeding from me.
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  VH7 - Watchtower JULY 15 Study Edition.

  Ucantnome - you're probably right, and if so, the org was shooting itself in foot by informing later recruits of its past failed "truths" which were subsequently reversed.

  My favourite is the "hypothetical evil slave" reversal - because it was one of Christendom's seminaries in the U.S.A.* which came up with this "new light", only for the alleged "faithful slave" to hijack it for their own ends and make it look like their "inspired expression.

  * see the NET Bible footnote for Matthew 24:48.